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Ep12 | How Do I Deal With My Regrets? (Ft Sherwin)

Craig, Simon and Sherwin on regret as the wish to undo a lesson you already learned.

42 min

Ep12 | How Do I Deal With My Regrets? (Ft Sherwin)

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In this conversation

They talk about mistakes, family pressure and ego. It is not a method for clearing regret.

What the recording covers

  • They ask whether taking a mistake back would also take back the person you became because of it.
  • A family story is described as something people only see at the end, after the pressure.
  • Simon's point lands on the ego that resists what is already done, and the choice that comes after it.

Questions to sit with after you listen

  1. Which regret is actually a lesson you are trying to unlearn?
  2. What is already done that you are still negotiating with?

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Transcript

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You've made a mistake and you can learn from and then by learning from it It then changes you into being essentially a better person Hopefully then is that something you should really be regretting because a regret is that it basically a sense of I Shouldn't have done that. I wish I could take it back by taking it back You're essentially taking back the lesson that you've learned.

So therefore you wouldn't essentially be the same person that you are This is talking to my welcome to talking to my Podcast or we have open honest and raw conversations about things that are playing on our minds My name's Simon aka SJ Father I'm a video creator.

I'm a business enthusiast My name is Craig aka mr Positive a cheesy motivator with a solution background big dreams and a passion for helping others find and maintain their peace Nice and we're thankful to be joined by our special guest today who is Thanks. My name is show and Samson.

I'm a musician and a multimedia engineer Yes, so as you guys know in this podcast we bring a unique perspective on our inner force by literally Pre-recording the things that are on our mind before talking about them amongst a group and we do this because we believe that Before you can be open with others.

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We like to have a word association So obviously I'm gonna speak to Craig first. What comes to your mind when we think about the feeling of regret? Mistakes taking back what I've done or rewind in time is often what comes to me when I'm thinking about regrets Cool sure and what's what's your first thoughts that come to mind when you think about regret?

Yes, just some Regrets like something that you wish you didn't do or wish you didn't you haven't done So that's the first thing that comes to my mind Nice Cool.

So I think I mean I'll probably agree with both of you guys Obviously when we're thinking about regret we're thinking about the things that I guess we wish we could take back And as Craig said maybe like the mistakes that we've made Yeah, I think that's something that definitely resonates with a lot of people I mean we'll delve a little bit more into how those words Kind of are associated with how we feel about that as well and how we feel about regret But before we do that, we're gonna go to our first Recording which I'm gonna start with Sherwin's and we'll see how he feels about his deepest regret Yeah, so my philosophy is to eradicate regret from my syntax because You have to be thankful for the gift of life you have to Apply all the things that you've learned that are that might be good or that might not be good You have if you have the gift of life to learn from those things and apply it You might as well Apply those things Rather than be too hung up on a regret because a regret Could be in a more of a stronghold in your life.

Regrets can actually hold you back from actually Excelling in a certain area you know God could present you with a second a third or a fourth chance in life and The hang up of a regret could stop you from Even getting anywhere that you should be So It's not over until the fat lady sings The one example I have is when I was in school when I was doing my GCSEs. I Thought that I was revising.

Okay, and I thought I should have got a lot more ATCs than I did But then I didn't know when my results came the first time around. It wasn't the best So if I spent too long with regrets on that Then I wouldn't have realized that boy Actually, I'm young.

I've got a second chance to do as many GCSEs I want to learn as many things as I want and to make sure I can show all the teachers All the people that ever gave me any predicted grades that were low Prove all of them wrong and actually be better than anyone ever thought I could be even myself so that is an example of how Regret can hamper your development. It can hamper your growth.

I'm thankful Now I can turn around and say that I'm thankful that I didn't get Five ATCs in my first time round because guess what in my second time round I've got like seven A's So boy, I'm thankful that I flunked the first time because that made me turn super sane the second time So this is why I'm a prime example of why I can't live a life of regret, but I live a life of application a life of development a life of learning and a life of Knowing that all things are possible Even when you mess up that you're still possible to it's still possible to achieve something good What we're trying to cover is more so is there any?

Deep regrets that we have and obviously I can tell just by by what you're saying your your philosophy is essentially Don't look back always move forward and essentially or you can correct me if I'm wrong It's a case of you you shouldn't follow you shouldn't let Regret kind of hold you back in a sense and always think that whether you've made them those mistakes You can always overcome them at some point in your life So tell me a little bit about what what was going through your mind when you was talking about that?

Yeah.

Yes, exactly that So, I mean you even said it yourself I believe that it's good to know where you're coming from to know where you're going as well So, you know, we all have the opportunity to look at the glass half full or half empty so it's my choice that I choose to look at all to look at the silver linings in any clouds that might come my way and Use the suit to use the energy of that silver lining to help me to do something really good next time round from what I saw Dude turn super saiyan after he made his regrets and mistakes Not a lot of people know people find themselves like leveling up and I think that's the key key takeaway from what he's saying is that he He's mainly his first thing he started was was eradicating the The word regret from your syntax.

It's not something he he sees because usually great as we did at the beginning is associated with Turning back time or taking things away or changing it, but it's impossible to change it's already happened So I really appreciated his talk with himself to say that even though we may he may have associated His GCSEs and some of the mistakes he made with a word of regret He doesn't allow that to run his life He was able to change it round and as he's his quote, let me not let me not do it say wrong Let me not let me not do it say wrong show the people them That he could be better than what anybody said I could be even myself.

I mean That's about the same about what he said, but basically people did and that and that and that I resonate with that You know, and that's that that's a key thing Could I ask you have you always been able to Do this is there any regrets that you haven't felt that you've learned from or You've been able to create something more powerful from afterwards like something that you've maybe just I don't know It could have been years ago, but you just haven't actually learned or seen the lesson from it yet Do you know do you know like my father he calls me?

he's given me a nickname that stuck with me since I was young to to my age now, so it's abundantly optimistic and I think this is you know, some people see that as a gift In the trait of my character, which is to just be positive and to always be able to convert Experiences into into a positive thing.

So there's been lots of stuff that has happened, but I'm I'm actually thankful for these things because it's helped me to Mold myself You know, it's made me the man I am today You know and as an example that I gave as well Which was look at Will Smith, for example people could see him now He you know, there was a time in his career where he had five films at once different albums He was the hardest-working man in Hollywood.

You know, he learned how to be an entertainer as well as a businessman as well as He became more experienced in how to handle things and his money Things and his money and you know at first when he was like 19 or 20 He made like a schoolboy mistake where he he wasn't aware about tax So he was just spending out all of his money as soon as it came in and now look at him now You know, he's he's learned from that mistake and he's you'll never catch him and even on the interview with him I saw he said that one of his biggest motivators is the fact that he never wants to be broke Even when even when he's far away from that happening He's so afraid of that ever have coming back again that he makes sure he he goes above and beyond that to actually Dead that concept all together to make sure will never come knocking on his door again.

So I guess that's that come from a mistake that obviously he's learned from so I mean if it what I consider it to be is that obviously if it's something that You've made a mistake and you can learn from and then by learning from it It then changes you into being essentially a better person hopefully then is that something you should really be regretting because A regret is basically a sense of I shouldn't have done that I I wish I could take it back but by taking it back, you're essentially taking back the lesson that you've learned So therefore you wouldn't essentially be the same person that you are Um, so it's interesting how you've kind of made that example and we're speaking about obviously the taking back mistakes that we've made but I I can I can kind of debate that the mistakes that we make are the things that make us into the people that we are Yeah, it's a very complex thing.

You know the life there's a lot of wisdom in life to acquire and you know even on on the concept of Having doing something that might have harmed someone or Other types of levels of regrets.

There's still something to gain from those You know, you can still part of the main ways one can acquire appreciation and gratitude and a list of all of these other characteristics is through Making mistakes and and and going through some things that they might regret You know if you've gone through something that you've regretted and you've come out with with a With a stronger appreciation or something That is still positive Yeah, um something that I was actually literally just writing right now from what you're saying is literally like We have we have literally been conditioned to believe that a mistake a failure or regret is actually something that's wrong when in reality It's a lesson and an opportunity for us to grow and be better than we were so Yeah, this is a it's a powerful a powerful thing that we're kind of picking up on right now I second that but we cannot send that as an invest.

That's I second that 100 like what you said just there is exactly Well, it is so what we will do is actually get straight into my recording which kind of touches on how I saw regret in the first place, but because I was forced to Figure out what the regret was I had to draw it out of myself. So We'll touch on that right now and let's get started my deepest regret Funny enough.

I don't really have or live by your regrets everything happens the way it's supposed to even if you don't like it or you do and You just have to adapt and move on anything that's already happened is in the past and it cannot be changed.

However When I do think about deepest regrets I would say it was an argument with my parents Probably about five or six years ago now, but um, the argument was so bad that It literally Kind of broke our relationship with each other but with both my mom and my dad and me And it put strain on the the family put strain on them as well It was a very uncomfortable few Months actually to really come back to normal and it was just really due to my stupidity um causing a massive argument um And I was just out of order to the point where I was just um raising my voice so high it almost seemed abusive Um, not that I would ever hurt or raise my hands to my parents must be crazy.

Yeah But it was that it was that bad and I was just really that stupid Um and out of order so it's something I do can say or you can hear that I regret you do regret but From that from me learning how far I can and shouldn't go We've never argued since I could tell you in the last six years We have not argued to the point where we wouldn't talk anymore and like for a day or a few hours Nothing like that.

We don't fall out like that anymore. It's nothing. It's not worth it So that Mistake Helped me love and care for my parents better and put and not just put but I would say Um learn to put people beyond myself I put people above me. It's not just about me. It's not just about my ego.

It's about more than that It's about the people that surround you and you surround yourself with and how you hold yourself So I would say that mistake Actually taught me how to be a better man a better a better son a better friend A better stranger funny enough So deepest regrets Deepest regret was that But it teaches you something everything is valid Um, and everything is necessary And you just have to learn and adapt and grow from it Yeah So would I would I do the same thing Again is the question I would say probably yes Because what I knew What I know now is not what I knew then And that is how I dealt with it back then but it has brought me to be the person I am today So I wouldn't change it.

I'll do the same thing again No matter if that moment at the time was very hurtful And hard to deal with Yeah, yeah, that's actually that's actually Quite powerful and it's actually crazy how you would I understand why you would say it but just hearing you say and imagining myself say it as well is that I wouldn't I would be happy to make That state that same mistake again Because I know the outcome that will come from it and the person that I would become from making that mistake And it's weird because obviously when you're in that space And you're making that mistake, you don't even realize you're making a mistake for one but The the strain and the stress and the emotion and everything that you have to go through at that point in your life Is like I shouldn't be going through this.

I don't want to go through this. This is this is hard. This is like It's that when you're in it it's like You don't want to ever go through that again But then it's interesting in hindsight when you look back on your life you're like well I would be happy to go through that again because I know what would come from that And that's that's a that's a powerful thing, man. That's crazy.

But um, obviously craig you're um, We won't go into too much detail about the exact incident But what was your kind of do you remember your feelings and your emotions at the time of of when it happened and what you What your thought process was at the time? Um at that time it was a situation which um It wasn't my fault That the argument kicked off. So why why they were why the argument started on against me?

Wasn't actually my fault.

It was something that was because of the third party And then but it's not about the third party or anything like that The whole point is that when you get into arguments, you always want to prove you want to prove your point You want your ego to get you need to be like clear your clear your name When reality it's not really necessary to do that when you really think of the grander scale was it was the argue the The argument or what they were accusing me of that deep.

No, it wasn't that deep for what it created um how I felt at the time was uh, I want justice man. I want justice. I want you to tell me no, it's not my fault It wasn't me that did this it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't me that created this but the thing is Is They later on found out that it wasn't my fault That's the joke of it.

But because of how far I went Because of the argument and like things that were said it shows that it's not about the argument Actually, what was said afterwards was something that lived inside of you You said that in a sense and that's what is the real issue The real issue wasn't what happened because it my name was cleared less than 24 hours But that small argument Escalated to extend through months of my life Oh and our lives actually so it's interesting how your ego plays an effect And if you could have just stepped back and taken a bit of a breather But at that time I just needed to get my point across and I wanted justice.

Did I get justice?

No, I got Got burned for it literally So it's funny how your ego tricks you into places that you don't really need to you didn't really need to be or you Didn't need to need to do Um, yeah, and it's weird how obviously Those those kind of incidents and those those those things Like I guess Propel into a bigger a bigger situation and it needs to be just because of the heat at the moment and the emotion that you're going Through and as you said because of because of hindsight you realize that well It doesn't it's not even about what?

the facts of what took place it's about how it was dealt with and I think that when it comes to Regret a lot of people feel that They've regretted because they've they in hindsight they feel they could have dealt with it differently and I think as you said because Maybe that's maybe in hindsight.

It was the wrong way to go about it But because you went about it that way the result Caused a chain of events that then led you to learn a lesson that then made you into a better person And I think that that's an important thing to try not to have Too much regret just accept that a mistake was made And and at least learn from it because I think I think the real problem and the real mistake would be is that if you don't Learn from it That's where I think that's where the true mistake comes from is that you have an incident where you do something and you may be In the wrong and you haven't learned from it and I think that's where the true Mistake and the true regret should be that's how I feel Um, sure sure.

Yeah sharing what your thoughts on that a hundred percent. That's it, you know regret isn't Isn't the end it's like, you know, everybody's life is like a narrative and it's like a book and you've got to see Regret as not the last two words of the book the end It's uh, you know, it's more of a platform.

Like we said, it's more of a platform to to develop from it to to make amends to To rise above it and you know when I was just listening to this the first thing that came into my mind is like how beautiful Your family is now, you know, it's like gold, you know people just see the end product People always see the end product, but they never see the trials and tribulations that Things have to go through to end up where it ends up You know that gold has to get burnt in the hottest degrees Scorched to come out as gold.

It's not just overnight turning out as gold, you know So this is it. This is this is it Those those trials of fire that you And you know your parents went through with this incident has now You know, you guys are going to be even stronger Than than you were before this happened.

You will be it definitely was a pressured moment and something that simon said was the um Like my ego on or me trying to resist The fact that it's what has been done is already done and now you need to make a change That's what causes the time to extend because during that time of the first few months was actually me Just not accepting that you've done something wrong and you used to overstep the line.

So I always tell people What you put out in the world is a reflection of you So you think that somebody else made you negative you think that somebody else made you say something bad You think that somebody else made you Uh bad mouth you because they I don't know they either accused you of something or they argued with you You think the things that you say was because of them But in reality if we believe in the whole sense of energy and and there's a source for everything What came out of you was something that was already resided in you?

So me resisting, um the the argument and saying that I still believe I needed justice Made it long take longer for me to actually just learn the lesson that I should have just let it go and I should have actually just um Realized what i've done regardless of what how it started but how you reacted was in was was wrong But me resisting that for so long is what caused it to take longer And then that energy was something I was harboring in me and then I'll blame my parents for Them just hanging on to something but I hadn't learned my lesson.

So yeah again if you can change regret Into something where you don't see it as a mistake which you try to rebuke or resist You can the quicker you can try to learn from it and actually reflect on okay What could I have done different about it because at the time I was barely saying anything I was not figuring out how to do it different. I was just like if this Person didn't do this.

I wouldn't be here I was victimizing myself. That's what I was saying. I was like, this is some bobo. I don't want this But in reality, it was all me. It wasn't because the thing is I had my name had been cleared in less than 24 hours Hmm, so it was like well, what is the what are you what exactly you still hanging on to in a sense?

So yeah Yeah, that was that was actually sounds like it actually sounds like Regret is just the myth Because at the end of the day where it really counts is in is in what simon was saying Which is where certain things become facets of your character Once it becomes cemented and it becomes a part of your character that is the ultimate That's when that's when it's um, you've except when someone's accepted to be a certain way And they've decided to not change and they've decided to make something a part of their character If you've read if you recognize That unattractive trait in yourself and you don't want to be a certain way and you've rejected that character then that is Then you can't have regret anymore because you've risen above that But if something has now become a part of your a facet of your character Then and and you know, someone doesn't want to change a certain way They they're just going to going down a road a long road a permanent road then It's going to be even harder to come back Back There's this this is one line they have this line that it's easier for you to stay the same than it is to change So that's that's that's the that's the key part right there is like yeah, do you like this trait?

Yes or no? Don't lie to yourself. And if you don't like the trait change it and if you don't change it, it's going to be a part of you forever And it does it does come it does come down to character as well Saying you put you I think you kind of Pinpointed that that pretty much is down to your character And and it kind of shows who you are when you say to someone, okay Not do you have regrets in general?

But well, yeah So do you have regrets do you regret a lot of things and for someone to say yeah It kind of it almost shows that they're not the type of person to grow from their mistakes Whereas someone I believe anyway that that that can say or be confident enough to be like well No, I don't have any regrets.

There may be one particular moment, which I do regret but in terms of my lifespan, I don't believe in regretting anything because I believe they're the all lessons I can learn from it does reflect on who you're who you are in your character I definitely do agree with that Craig I know we was we was ideally going to pull in some questions about this as well Do you have any questions that you've got from any of our listeners as well that we can talk about a couple questions for you All right, so so when this is one that we can any of us can pick up the pick up our answer for it But these are questions from a few people that submitted Uh, so the first question um Oh, actually, this is the resonance of what we just said if you could put yourself in that position again with the wealth of knowledge You know now would you change it?

Yeah, I think that's I think that's obviously self-explanatory from what we covered is that Well, you would you said it as well craig. No, you wouldn't change it And it's it's a weird thing to say because it's like well Why would you want to go back and make those same mistakes?

But as we've already learned that it's you're making no mistakes so you can learn from them So I guess in hindsight, yeah I would I would go back and make that mistake because then I can I can better myself from it And obviously, I don't know if there's a particular saying but you have to go through the rough in order to get to the smooth You have to be able to to kind of get through those hurdles jump over those hurdles before you get to the finish line and say Yeah, i've done it.

So without jumping over those hurdles. Where are you getting? Where are you going?

One parable that comes to mind is that smooth seas Don't make skillful sailors So when the rough turbulent times come think about how much More skillful you would be after that think about how much you would have been advanced from that in your character You know in yourself You would have been more developed from that and then the second thing that comes to my mind is that it's not about where you were It's about where you end up where you end up is always more important than where you are or where you were Where you end up is the most important thing because at the end of the day You know this all links to that larger question, which is what is the meaning of life?

Why are we here on life? Like why are we living?

And this this this that's what links to that which is that at the end of the day anyone can still Uh, you might have some material things someone could you know, you could lose your phone anything can happen But you know your character is the one thing that we should treasure and that we should take extra care in to develop Because it's always there with you since the day you were born to the day that you die That's the one thing that's always going to be there So so it's more important where you where you end up where your character ends up is more important because that's the only thing that Technically we're taking with us anyway Have you healed or does it still linger sometimes when days go past?

So has anybody so I will repeat that again. Have you healed? Healed it or does it still linger sometimes when days go past? This is a good question for anybody who maybe has a regret that they haven't fully let go of or it's still kind of even if they've learned some stuff they still it's still it still burns a little bit.

Yeah It's just like with anything else like you take the the metaphor I'll use is like with everything else if there's a plant There's been some plants or some wildlife trees that you would look at and think boy There's no coming back from that or someone has you might see somebody who's Whose leg has been broken in some next ways and you're thinking boy.

There's no way he's gonna walk again But the thing is that over time Time is a healer, you know Over time you can be healed and guess what you'll be even stronger than than you were before Like if you break your wrist and your arms in the cast Once they once it just takes some time for it to heal but then once it's healed It's healed during that process. It's going to be difficult.

Yes So during that time when it's taking some time to to get back to where it was that is going to be an interesting journey Yeah, but But it's nice.

It's never you never say I will never get back You know, that's another word that I would love to eradicate never the word never Because when there's a will where there's a will there's a way That's interesting actually because of craig just thinking about obviously your situation and trying to Trying to think about my my life and where I would have held any particular regret that I would linger onto And as I said, well just based on my character again and and how I who I am now I can't say that I do have any regrets Um, and I don't think I think that it's it's interesting obviously where you've brought up your your biggest regret has that is that a is there any point in your life where you've had it linger or you've just It's or is it just become a reminder of what you need to do to be better Like how how does that kind of work with you in your situation?

Mine doesn't linger.

It's actually something I've not only learned from which took a while to learn from I've discussed it with uh friends and family, but then I actually brought it back to my parents as well Um to highlight the fact that we had an argument which was that bad, but we've now actually come to a point where we've we've um Learned something that we've never been able to argue is nothing is ever important enough anymore to have that argument Sorry, let me come a bit closer.

So yeah, that's actually an interesting one way I've gone through several processes.

Not only did I have to fix it, which is apologize then build back the relationship Um, then I actually discussed it with other people so I can I can actually be true that I am actually free from it And then not only did I do that I was able to go back to my parents and actually have a discussion about it as to what I learned and what we gained From it as well, obviously You're not going to tell them remember the argument I had with you That was a good thing It's not going to be like that but yeah, but it's more of a it's beautiful though the way how you're handling it and the way how you're You're structuring this this uh family bridge is a is a beautiful thing because you know You're making it now like you're making it now with adamantium.

It's indestructible now, did you know that?

You're making With a serious material now, which which way is it man's making the airtight making the acid tight is making sure that everything Do you know that not even not even um, not even um finals could get to that one where No for real it was a It's it's a it's a that that particular situation is a learning process for other things as well And actually it set the foundation for how I treat Uh people in my life Um how how things are really not that important?

Um in the end like if the whole thing that we really believe in is all we really care about is love Versus verse anything else you actually realize how little it matters and even like I have a bracelet on that my um My partner got for me and it's from corinthians 13 and it says love is patient and love is kind now I read this all the time because sometimes you just sometimes you're just angry about something and someone's getting to you or Even your party of argument or your parents and I look at the bracelet and it says love is patient and love is kind It just reminds you that regardless of how much you think your ego is right and you're in the right position to be angry If what you're doing and how you're using your time is not for love You're wasting your time and you're wasting your your energy and that's something I always remember and this that that that argument and that uh Recovery and healing built a foundation for how I treat people in my life and how I even treat myself And then it just kept growing from there That's amazing We'll try and address this conversation a little bit more on our social media platforms just so we can Open up the conversation to more people if you haven't had the opportunity to send in your questions Then obviously once you hear this, please feel free to do that through our through our instagram page And we've got obviously on youtube as well so if there's anything from from craig if you want to kind of start it off your food for thought about how How you feel the conversation's gone and anything that you mainly want to take away from this?

My food for thought is regret is not something to suppress or to try to Re-write regret is an opportunity for us to grow and to learn from Once you put your ego aside And actually see it in a different light So just remember that when you move forward if you can see your regret that you may have Something you can change and grow from take the opportunity while it's there.

Otherwise, it will live for you with you forever Nice shirwin That's um, that is I feel like i've been elevated just by listening But you know my the one thing I would say is it's not even It's just about other people the main thing that I Leave i'm leaving with this is just other people in the world you know and how other people have like mental health issues or maybe how we can Set up infrastructure to help people that might not know how to handle regret or how to handle experiences because that is One of the beautiful things is that you know, we have to learn to help another a long life's way So, you know, that is the one thing that i'm thinking of how we can help others Yeah That's funny you talked it's interesting you actually touched on that because now that i'm again in hindsight thinking about it What I was going to say is is Is don't live a life of regret because essentially you're holding on to something that you can't control for one um It's in the past and that's something that the more you linger on it the more it's just going to affect your presence and and how you are at the moment and Again, you have no control over that.

It's something that happened in the past It may have been a mistake that you you do wish you could take back But understand that as you said showing it's an opportunity and craig as well an opportunity to learn from so don't let it linger on you and it will be interesting to know if there are any if there is anyone out there who does Have a lot of regrets where they are holding on to a lot of things how they're actually managing and how they're dealing with that and and what's the best way to kind of Try and release some of that grit because I regret because as I said, it's something that you're not in control of So essentially you're letting something consume you that you have no power to change.

So why then linger over it? So yeah, I think that's that's my my more so my takeaway from that would be to try and not Live a life of regret.

Just take it as an opportunity to learn from your mistakes Yes Because you know even I think that that is the foundation, you know, that's the foundation of uh, all of these things like depression Or it's the root of the foundation if people don't know how to handle these Experiences and and regrets and their mindsets then it will lead them down the path to depression You know, this is a whole another whole other podcast all together You know people would want to Seek tablets and seek other kind of things to help them When maybe the answer that they need is in what we spoke about now learning to accept something learning to Better yourself from something realizing that you have another chance to Do it to do it a second time better You know, so Uh funny enough just to finish off to wrap that last piece up you said fun enough that we've touched on quite We've touched on this quite often in uh talking to my thoughts actually for people that haven't listened we've touched on stuff like depression before and The main key the key line that we have is to be open with others we must first be open of ourselves and when we're able to do that, we can actually begin to understand ourselves and How can you say decipher or to pick out what we're thinking in our minds because when we keep it to ourselves Yes, this does keep this uh recurring theme of us either beating ourselves up and this is what can lead to depression As they say the line goes we suffer more in our imagination than we do in our in our reality So when you actually get to share and talk to other people and bounce off what you've been going through You realize you're not alone You realize actually what i've been thinking isn't valid and then you realize actually life is not as bad as it looks Once I can actually just let go of a few things that haven't been serving me very well And this is something in talking to my thoughts.

We always try to have several conversations about how What you think is not something that's invalid You just need to make sense of it And once you can you could take control of it and then we won't lead ourselves into these places that we can call hell These are hard bars.

I would hope you would write a book with some of these phrases Yes, well wicked well as you know, obviously this podcast isn't just about us talking to you guys the listeners We want you guys to get involved. So make sure you're asking questions Continue the conversation open up to us about your views your experiences. You can obviously dm us Put your comments in and email us as well.

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